DATING

FRISTER & ROSSMANN

SEWING MACHINES

 

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SERIAL                YEARS              SOLE AGENTS                 MACHINES NUMBERS                                       IN  LONDON                     TYPE

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         000 ........................

                  400*     1864                                                       W&W

         400 ........................

                 400*      1865                                                       W&W

         800 ........................

                 400*      1866                                                       W&W

       1.200........................

                              1867                                                        W&W

       2.000........................ 

                1.500      1868                                                        W&W

       3.500........................

               10.000**  1869                                                         W&W

     13.500........................

               13.000**  1870                                                         W&W

     26.500........................

               15.000**  1871                                                         W&W

     41.500.........................

               18.035*    1872                                                         W&W

     59.535.........................

                               1873                                                  FB - W&W

     72.000.........................

                               1874                                                  FB - W&W

     85.920.........................    

               19.080*    1875                                                 FB - W&W

                5  May      1875            Isidor Nasch

   105.000......................... 105.915 (NeedleBar.org

 

... their name and trade mark were quite unknown to the English public and the few machines which Isidor and others may have sold were sold by him either under an English name and trade mark, or else they were supplied without any name or trade mark, for the purpose of affixing an English trade mark before they reached the public...

                                                                  (from Hermann Loog letter)

   105.000.............................................................................................

                      April  1876     ISIDOR  NASCH

                                1876     HERMANN  LOOG

                                                             128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   123.000........................      

  +22.087*             1877  ( H. LOOG )  128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   145.087........................

  +26.925*             1878  ( H. LOOG )  128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   172.012........................

  +27.800*             1879  ( H. LOOG )  128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   199.812........................

  +29.546*             1880  ( H. LOOG )  128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W 

   229.358........................ 227.273 (NeedleBar.org)

                     April 1881   D.R.P.  N. 12784 (bobbin winder)

  250.000  August 1881  ( H. LOOG )  128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W 

  +35.418*             1881

   264.776........................

  +47.133*             1882   ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   311.909........................ 

  +56.793*             1883   ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   368.702........................ 

  +63.287*             1884   ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   431.989........................ 

  +66.000*             1885   ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   497.989........................ 

   500.000      Jan. 1886

                               1886   ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

   539.711                                              49 FORE STREET    FB machine

                                                  (S. LOEWE) 127 LONDON WALL    

   540.000........................  

                   January 1887  ( S. LOEWE )  127 LONDON WALL  FB - W&W

                                                                 ( only the address on the badge )

                     July      1887   ( S. LOEWE )   49 FORE STREET     FB - W&W

                                                                 ( only the address on the badge ) 

           

           last machine badged  128 London Wall  s/n   540.177 # 294.177

           first machine badged   49 Fore Street    s/n   539.711 # 293.711

           last  machine badged  49 Fore Street     s/n   561.276 # 310.276

first badged  S.LOEWE 49 FORE ST.        s/n   554.613 # 305.613

                                1887    S. LOEWE   49 FORE STREET   TS - FB - W&W

                                          (name and address on the badge )

    560.000........................

  + 20.000                 1888      S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET        

    580.000........................ 

  + 20.000                 1889      S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET        TS - W&W

    600.000........................ 

  + 20.000                 1890      S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET         TS

    620.000........................ 589.904 (NeedleBar.org)

  + 20.000                 1891      S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET         TS

    640.000........................ 

  + 20.000                 1892      S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET         TS

    660.000........................ 

  + 20.000                 1893      S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET         TS

    680.000........................ 

  + 20.000                 1894      S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET         TS

    700.000........................ 

   +20.000  (96.000*) 1895      S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET         TS

    720.000........................ 714.904 (NeedleBar.org)

 

  + 30.000                 1896    W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET    TS

 

    750.000........................

  + 40.000                 1897                                                             TS

    774.345 .............................. S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET

    775.073 .......................... W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET

 

    790.000........................ 

  + 40.000                 1898   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET    TS

    830.000........................ 

  + 40.000                 1899   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

    870.000........................

    890.000    21 JUNE 1900

   892.460   This serial belong to one of the first F&R VS sewing machine

  + 40.000                 1900   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

    910.000........................ 889.904 (NeedleBar.org)

  + 40.000                 1901   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

    950.000........................ 

  + 40.000                 1902   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

    990.000........................ 

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1.000.000    July      1903 

1.040.000........................ 

 + 50.000                 1904   W. PIERSSENE  49 FORE STREET       TS/VS

1.090.000.........................

 + 50.000                 1905   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE  STREET       TS/VS

1.140.000......................... 

 + 50.000                 1906   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET        TS/VS

1.190.000......................... 

 + 50.000                 1907   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE  STREET      TS/VS

1.240.000.........................   

                               

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1.250.000               1908  JANUARY

 

 

 + 45.000                 1908   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET

1.285.000........................

 + 35.000                 1909   W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET  TS/VS

1.320.000........................ 

 + 35.000                            W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET  TS/V

1.332.239                 1910   

                                            W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET  TS/VS

1.355.000........................                   25 December 1910

 

 + 35.000                 1911   W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET  TS/VS

1.390.000........................

 + 35.000                 1912   W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET   TS/VS

1.425.000.........................

 + 35.000                 1913   W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET   TS/VS

1.460.000........................

 + 30.000                 1914   W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET   TS/VS

4 August 1914 - United Kingdom declared war on the German Empire

1.485.496                          W. Pierssene 24-25  Fore Street

1.487.648                          W. Pierssene 24-25  Fore Street

1.488.330                          W. Pierssene 24-25  Fore Street

1.490.000.........................

 + 40.000                 1915

1.492.353                          W. Pierssene 24-25  Fore Street

1.497.219                          W. Pierssene 24-25  Fore Street

 

PIERSSENE will leave FRISTER & ROSSMANN to sell VICKERS sewing machines from the same address. Was not a "Patriotic Move" only, the main reason why he left the company, you will see it on the below picture.

1915 April 30
1915 April 30
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1.500.000               1915         first quarter circa

 

1.524.791                        NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.530.000.........................

 + 25.000                 1916

1.535.222                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.540.896                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.555.000..........................

 + 15.000                 1917

1.563.577                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.567.026                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.570.000..........................

 + 15.000                 1918

1.572.454                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.581.023                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

11 November 1918   end of WWI

1.585.000.........................

 + 15.000                 1919

1.595.735                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.596.367                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.598.139                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.599.635                           NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.600.000...........................

 + 20.000                 1920

During the great war, the sewing machines production could have been maintained high, despite Frister & Rossmann started the production of weapons of war, because confident of certain victory or for different reasons.

After World War I, Germany was forced to pay all of the war reparations after the Treaty of Versailles (France), signed on 28 June 1919 , came into force on the January 10, 1920.

Possibly after the Treaty of Versailles, the Frister & Rossmann could export again to England. The sewing machine were imported in England by the new sole agent OLIVER QUITMANN with offices in 18 CITY ROAD, in London.

 1920  QUITMANN  18  CITY  ROAD

1.600.801                           E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.603.246                           E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.603.591                           E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.606.463                           E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.615.303                           E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.620.000.........................

 + 20.000                 1921

1.631.050                           E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.639.944                           E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.640.000.........................

 + 20.000                 1922

1.660.000.........................                               

 + 20.000                 1923    QUITMANN  18  CITY  ROAD  

1.680.000.........................

 + 20.000                 1924    QUITMANN  18  CITY  ROAD     

1.700.000 c. ...................

                                1925

The new serial numbers may be added to the sewing machine production of the Gritzner company.

3.650.000 c.

 + 50.000                 1925     FRISTER & ROSSMANN  UNDER  GRITZNER

3.662.713             TS 48-K       QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

3.700.000 .......................

 + 50.000                 1926     FRISTER & ROSSMANN  UNDER  GRITZNER

3.750.000.........................

 + 55.000                 1927     FRISTER & ROSSMANN  UNDER  GRITZNER

3.802.935                   VS-E        QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD 

3.805.000.........................

 + 55.000                 1928     FRISTER & ROSSMANN  UNDER  GRITZNER

3.805.085                   VS-E        QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD 

3.807.436                TS 48-K      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

3.809.130                TS 48-K      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

3.809.243                                  O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

 

3.817.163                 VS-E        QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD 

                     Date of Purchase 1933

 

3.858.707                  VS-E        O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

3.860.000........................

 + ???????                1929

 

Dissolution of the Frister & Rossmann

The G.-V. dated 3.6.1929 decided to release according to § 240 HGB, the dissolution of the company.

 

3.888.782                TS 48-K      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

               

The depression originated in the U.S., after the fall in stock prices that began around September 4, 1929 and became worldwide news with the stock market crash of October 29, 1929 (known as Black Tuesday)

 

       5.000 .........................

 +   5.000                 1930

      10.000.........................

 +   5.000                 1931      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

      15.000 ........................                             

 +   5.000                 1932      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

      20.000.........................

 +   5.000                 1933      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

 

Hitler and the Nazi Party came to power in January 1933

 

      25.000.........................

 + 25.000                 1934      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

s/n 25.067  (1934)
s/n 25.067 (1934)

 

 

 

      25.067...... O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

    50.000........................

 + 25.000                 1935      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

     75.000.........................

 + 30.000                 1936      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

   105.165         19.12.1936

   110.000.........................

 + 50.000                 1937      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

  149.109                 TS-D           27 October 1937

   160.000........................

 + 50.000                 1938      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

   198.062           Last TSH-D          7 September 1938           

   210.000.........................

 + 40.000                 1939      O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

      212.295                VSE long bed   O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

      223.658                VSE long bed   O. Quitmann 23 & 24 Little Britain

 

1 Sept    1939           World War II

   

  250.000.......................

                               1940

# 212.295  latest recorded serial number
# 212.295 latest recorded serial number

 

 

F&R 212.295

 

O. QUITMANN

23 & 24 Little Britain

 

1939

??? 1941 - 1945 ???

In May 8, 1945 unconditional  surrender of the armed forces of Nazi Germany and the end of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich.

 

After WWII, the brand name was sold in 1945 circa to O. Quitmann in the UK.

     ????   .......................

                                1946      O. QUITMANN  350-356 Old Street

  337.165 ........................       

# 337.165   first serial with the new address
# 337.165 first serial with the new address


 

 

 

 F&R 337.165 

 

 O. QUITMANN

 350-356 Old Street

 

1946

 

 

1925 _ With the defeat, in Germany  began  economic problems. Despite beginning in 1920 exports to England again, the excessive production of sewing machines and the loss of sales to belligerent countries, the Frister & Rossmann had no choice but to sell the shares.

1929 _ Frister & Rossmann went in dissolution.

1937 _     see the following link

www.sewmuse.co.uk

A Model D Transverse Shuttle machine supplied by O. Quitmann, 23/24 Little Britain, Newgate Street, London. The date 27th Okt 1937 is stamped on the bottom edge of the case and we believe this would have been the date of manufacture. It seems strange that the company continued to produce such a machine which by that time was outdated in comparison with the vibrating shuttle machines then being produced.

 

1939 _ The world war is generally said to have begun on 1 September 1939 with the invasion of  Poland  by  Germany  and subsequent declarations of war on  Germany  by  France and the United Kingdom.

 

1945 _  Surrender of the armed forces of Nazi Germany.

 

see also:

The NeedleBar Frister & Rossmann Survey Results

 by Jenny Sims

 

 

 

my annually production is an average

 

red figures with * are annually production from Alte Nähmaschinen by Peter Wilhelm.

red figures with **  In 1869 the new factory was set for 250 sewing machines per week  (and 13.000 sewing machines in twelve months).

 

... the factory of Frister & Roßmann in Berlin, which in the previous year (1868) produced 1.500 sewing machines; 500 in the first half of the year and 1.000 in the second. In the current year (1869) 5.000 pieces have already emerged from this factory and today it supplies 200 machines every week and 10.000 sewing machines in twelve months.

Berlin, February 21, 1869

 

“Ludwig Vogel always earnestly recommend its stores of sewing machines, as working silently and easily, from the factory Frister & Rossmann in Berlin, (the largest sewing machine factory in Europe, 90.000 of these machines are already in use )

                                                                         From a German newspaper (1875)

 

On the August 6th 1881 a total production of 250.000 machines was accomplished.

In the year 1882 the 300.000 mark was passed.

In 1886 F&R could report its total production of 500.000 sewing machines.  

                                                                     from   ISMACS News

 

to be continued