DATING FRISTER & ROSSMANN 2

DATING

FRISTER & ROSSMANN

SEWING MACHINES

On the August 6th 1881 a total production of 250.000 machines was accomplished.

In the year 1882 the 300.000 mark was passed.

In 1886 F&R could report its total production of 500.000 sewing machines.

from ISMACS News

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SERIAL YEARS SOLE AGENTS MACHINES NUMBERS IN LONDON TYPE

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000 ........................

400* 1864 W&W

400 ........................

400* 1865 W&W

800 ........................

400* 1866 W&W

1.200........................

1867 W&W

4.000........................

1868 W&W

8.000........................

6.000** 1869 W&W

14.000........................

13.000** 1870 W&W

27.000........................

15.000** 1871 W&W

42.000.........................

18.035* 1872 W&W

60.035.........................

1873 FB - W&W

75.000.........................

1874 FB - W&W

90.920.........................

19.080* 1875 FB - W&W

5 May 1875 ISIDOR NASCH

110.000.............................................................................................

their name and trade mark were quite unknown to the English public, and the few machines which “ Isidor “ and others may have sold were sold by him either under an English name and trade mark, or else they were supplied without any name or trade mark, for the purpose of affixing an English trade mark before they reached the public.

(from Hermann Loog letter)

110.000.............................................................................................

April 1876 ISIDOR NASCH

1876 HERMANN LOOG

128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

123.000........................

22.087* 1877 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

145.087........................

26.925* 1878 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

172.012........................

27.800* 1879 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

199.812........................

29.546* 1880 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

229.358........................

April 1881 D.P.R. N. 12784 (bobbin winder)

250.000 August 1881 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

35.418*

264.776........................

47.133* 1882 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

311.909........................

56.793* 1883 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

368.702........................

63.287* 1884 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

431.989........................

66.000* 1885 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

497.989........................

500.000 January 1886

1886 ( H. LOOG ) 128 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

540.000........................

January 1887 ( S. LOEWE ) 127 LONDON WALL FB - W&W

( only the address on the badge )

July 1887 ( S. LOEWE ) 49 FORE STREET FB - W&W

( only the address on the badge )

last machine badged 128 London Wall s/n 540.177 # 294.177

first machine badged 49 Fore Street s/n 539.711 # 293.711

last machine badged 49 Fore Street s/n 561.276 # 310.276

first badged S.LOEWE 49 FORE ST. s/n 554.613 # 305.613

1887 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET TS - FB - W&W

(name and address on the badge )

555.000........................

1888 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET

570.000........................

1889 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET TS - W&W

585.000........................

1890 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET TS

605.000........................

1891 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET TS

625.000........................

1892 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET TS

645.000........................

1893 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET TS

665.000........................

1894 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET TS

685.000........................

96.000* 1895 S. LOEWE 49 FORE STREET TS

775.000........................

1896 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS

805.000........................

1897 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS

835.000........................

1898 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS

865.000........................

1899 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

892.460 This serial belong to one of the first VS sewing machine by F&R

895.000........................

1900 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

925.000........................

1901 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

955.000........................

1902 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

985.000........................

1.000.000 July 1903

1.045.000........................

1904 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.100.000.........................

1905 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.150.000.........................

1906 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.200.000.........................

1907 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.245.000.........................

1.250.000 January 1908 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET

1.285.000........................

1909 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.320.000........................

1910 W. PIERSSENE 49 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.350.000........................ 25 December 1910

1911 W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.390.000........................

1912 W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.430.000.........................

1913 W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET TS/VS

1.460.000........................

1914 W. PIERSSENE 24-25 FORE STREET TS/VS

4 August 1914 , United Kingdom declared war on the German Empire

1.485.496 W. Pierssene 24-25 Fore Street

1.487.648 W. Pierssene 24-25 Fore Street

1.488.330 W. Pierssene 24-25 Fore Street

1.490.000.........................

1.492.353 W. Pierssene 24-25 Fore Street

1.497.219 W. Pierssene 24-25 Fore Street

PIERSSENE will leave FRISTER & ROSSMANN to sell VICKERS sewing machines from the same address.

1.500.000 1915 first quarter circa

1.524.791 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.530.000.........................

1.535.222 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.540.896 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1916

1.563.577 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.567.026 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.570.000.........................

1.572.454 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.581.023 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1917

1.595.735 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.596.367 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.598.139 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.599.635 NOT BADGE ON SEWING MACHINE

1.600.801 E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.603.246 E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.603.591 E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.606.463 E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.610.000.........................

1.615.303 E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1918

11 November 1918 end of WWI

1.630.000.........................

1.631.050 E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1919

1.639.944 E. & O. Quitmann 18 City Road

1.640.000.........................

During the great war, the sewing machines production could have been maintained high, despite Frister&Rossmann started the production of weapons of war, because confident of certain victory or for different reasons...(profit)!

After World War I, Germany was forced to pay all of the war reparations after the Treaty of Versailles (France), signed on 28 June 1919 , came into force on 10 January 1920.

Possibily after the Treaty of Versailles, the Frister&Rossmann could export again.The sewing machine were imported in England by the new sole agent O.QUITMANN with offices in 18 CITY ROAD, in London.

(new evidences show that F&R may have never stopped to sell machines in England during WWI. Maybe Oliver Quitmann who may have started to import machines from 1917 , was not the only new importer. Many machines without badge of the Sole Agent were imported in England as well machines with the CITY ROAD address)

1920 QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

1.650.000.........................

1921 QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

1.660.000.........................

1922 QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

1.670.000.........................

1923 QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

1.680.000.........................

1924 QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

1.690.000.........................

3.662.713 1925 FRISTER&ROSSMANN UNDER GRITZNER

3.710.000.........................

1926 QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

3.760.000.........................

1927 QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

3.810.000.........................

1928 QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

3.860.168........................

3.888.782 3 June 1929 O. QUITMANN 18 CITY ROAD

Frister & Rossmann in Dissolution

The depression originated in the U.S., after the fall in stock prices that began around September 4, 1929, and became worldwide news with the stock market crash of October 29, 1929 (known as Black Tuesday).

5.000 ........................

1930 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

10.000.........................

1931 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

15.000 ........................

1932 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

20.000.........................

1933 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

Hitler and the Nazi Party came to power in January 1933

25.000.........................

1934 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

50.000........................

1935 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

75.000.........................

1936 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

110.000.........................

1937 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

149.109 27 October 1937

150.000........................

1938 O. QUITMANN 23 & 24 Little Britain

185.000.........................

1939 O. QUITMANN 23 &24 Little Britain

212.295 1 Sept 1939 World War II

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1940

1941

1942

1943

1944

8 May 1945

Unconditional surrender of the armed forces of Nazi Germany and the end of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich.

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1946

337165 ........................

F&R 212.295

O. QUITMANN

23 & 24 Little Britain

F&R 337.165

O. QUITMANN

350-356 Old Street

1925 _With the defeat , in Germany began economic problems. Despite beginning in 1920 exports to England again , the excessive production of sewing machines and the loss of sales to belligerent countries, the Frister & Rossmann had no choice but to sell the shares.

1929 _ Frister & Rossmann went in dissolution .

1937 _ see the following link

A Model D Transverse Shuttle machine supplied by O. Quitmann, 23/24 Little Britain, Newgate Street, London. The date 27th Okt 1937 is stamped on the bottom edge of the case and we believe this would have been the date of manufacture. It seems strange that the company continued to produce such a machine which by that time was outdated in comparison with the vibrating shuttle machines then being produced.

1939 _ The world war is generally said to have begun on 1 September 1939 with the invasion of Poland by Germany and subsequent declarations of war on Germany by France and the United Kingdom

1945 _ Surrender of the armed forces of Nazi Germany.

my annually production is an average.

red figures with * are annually production from Alte Nähmaschinen by Peter Wilhelm .

red figures with ** In 1869 the new factory was set for 250 sewing machines per week

to be continued